It is the business of Christ Who stays and Who goes

We have to stop putting people out of the church building if they are not disruptive or hurting anyone. Love them 

John 21:20-22 

 Amplified Bible²⁰But Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved, following--the one who also had leaned back on His breast at the supper and had said, Lord, who is it that is going to betray You?    ²¹When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, Lord, what about this man?

    ²²Jesus said to him, If I want him to stay (survive, live) until I come, what is that to you? [What concern is it of yours?] You follow Me!

New American Standard Bible  ²⁰Peter, turning around, saw the ^(A)disciple whom Jesus loved following them; the one who also had ^(B)leaned back on His bosom at the supper and said, "Lord, who is the one who betrays You?"
 ²¹So Peter seeing him said to Jesus, "Lord, and what about this man?"
 ²²Jesus said to him, "If I want him to remain ^(C)until I come, what is that to you? You ^(D)follow Me!"

Cross references:

1. John 21:20 : John 21:7
2. John 21:20 : John 13:25
3. John 21:22 : Matt 16:27; 1 Cor 4:5; 11:26; James 5:7; Rev 2:25
4. John 21:22 : Matt 8:22; 16:24; John 21:19

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Paul's Afflection

There is something I do not understand.  Why do church people beat others over the head about hardship being the victims fault????  I heard someone alluding to a hardship someone was going through as their fault because they weren't living according to the will of God. 

• No. 1 Who are they that who know or  understand the complete mind of All Mighty God? 
• No.2 That is what Jobs friends suggested to him.  
• No. 3 Would they have said that to Paul if he was here today?  

People have to be careful not to attack a person in pain.  I wander what pleasure they get.   I believe we must encourage people to hope and trust in El Shaddai [Most English translations render El Shaddai as "God Almighty," probably because the translators of the Septuagint (i.e., the Greek translation of the Old Testament) thought Shaddai came from a root verb (shadad) that means "to overpower" or" to destroy." The Latin Vulgate likewise translated Shaddai as Omnipotens (from which we get our English word omnipotent). God is so overpowering that He is considered "Almighty".]



2 Corinthians 12 (21st Century King James Version)


It is doubtless not expedient for me to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord:


2I knew a man in Christ more than fourteen years ago (whether in the body I cannot tell, or whether out of the body I cannot tell -- God knoweth). Such a one was caught up to the third Heaven.


3And I knew such a man (whether in the body or out of the body I cannot tell -- God knoweth),


4and how he was caught up into Paradise, and heard unspeakable words which it is not lawful for a man to utter.


5Of such a one will I glory, yet of myself I will not glory, except in mine infirmities.


6For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool, for I will say the truth. But now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or than he heareth of me.


7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.


8For this thing, I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.


9And He said unto me, "My grace is sufficent for thee, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Most gladly therefore will I glory rather in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.


10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in privations, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake; for when I am weak, then am I strong.


11I have become a fool in glorying. Ye have compelled me, for I ought to have been commended by you. For in nothing am I inferior to the very chiefest apostles, though I am nothing.


12Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds.


13For in what are ye inferior to other churches, unless it be that I myself was not burdensome to you? Forgive me this wrong!


14Behold, for the third time I am ready to come to you, and I will not be burdensome to you, for I seek not yours, but you. For the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.


15And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you, though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved.


16But be it so, I did not burden you. Nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.


17Did I gain from you by any of those whom I sent unto you?


18I desired Titus to go, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make any gain from you? Walked we not in the same spirit? Walked we not in the same steps?


19Again, think you that we excuse ourselves to you? We speak before God in Christ; but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying.


20For I fear lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found by you as ye would not, lest there be debates, envyings, wrath, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, boastings, tumults;


21and lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many who have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.





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